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Sheila E. x Crema's Josh

Queen of percussion, Sheila E., talks to Josh about her hot new salsa album and how to keep 28 year olds at bay.
Show transcript
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Look at this beautiful album.
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Thank you. I love that.
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It's a vinyl too.
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Like you can like physical things like this,
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you know, very important.
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They're coming back. This is what they shouldn't have never left
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I know we're good to go.
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Right. We're going good to go.
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Look at this Biar,
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how was it working with these amazing collaborators?
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You got your pops,
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your mom, Gloria Estefan.
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What, what is it like to work with these people?
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It's a everyday thing.
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It's casual. No,
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it was amazing. I,
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I mean, it's,
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I always look forward to playing with my dad anyway.
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So it's just, that's no one can reach that level of
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musicianship and artistry. Like being able to play with and perform
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with your own dad,
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you know, and what I've learned from him is just amazing
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And my mom,
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she, she's on the record.
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We try to, on some of the records.
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She loves playing Guido.
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She's a great Guido player.
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Yeah. So they get her in there,
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right? Oh I gotta get her in there.
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So it's not intimidating at all.
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These are every day.
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Your friends are calling them up.
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What's up? Let's do this kind of,
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the, the one that there were two people I
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had never met Hio Santa Rosa ever.
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And I was just like,
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so honored to have him on the record and he's just a
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sweetheart. He's a gentle man.
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And, you know,
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he first came into the studio,
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the track was already done.
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And so we overdubbed his vocal and,
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I was just amazed,
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like, how can he just sing that easy?
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You know, with such grace and like that song that we
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did. El Rey Del Timba is just so fast and he
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just, he just put like butter on it,
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you know, it just made it amazing.
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But,, I wasn't in the studio,
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for Ruben Blades.
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I sent him the track and that was one for sure.
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I knew that I wanted on the record and when he sent
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me the track back,
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I just heard his first four words and then I just cried
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I stopped it and I went outside and I just like
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thank you. Thank you Lord.
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The sun's beaming perfectly.
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You go. It was crazy.
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Like he's just incredible.
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Everyone know that that put their 150% on this project is
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just, I mean,
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it's, it's amazing.
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I, I, I'm just happy it's finally done and it
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took a lot to,
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to get it done.
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And what's, what's the ST like?
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Is it like a party?
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You guys are just riffing doing your thing or is there like
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food, drinks? What's the vibe?
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Well, we start off by saying hello,
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we say prayer and you know,
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we start playing and then by the end of the song,
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we're drinking tequila shots.
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Like, I don't know how that happens.
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Like we're playing in his tequila.
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Shut up. No.
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A lot of it.
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Actually most of the record I recorded in,
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in Miami with amazing artist and it was produced by
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Tony Suko and myself and we recorded a lot on
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his, in his studio and then other things that I,
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I came home and then recorded the rest in my studio.
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But majority of it is,
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is in Miami with amazing musicians.
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How is Miami compared to back then to now?
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What's Miami like? Well,
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I mean, back then it's like it was,
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I think it was,
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I feel that it was more of a party scene back then
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than it is now.
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I mean, I,
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I don't hang out as much so maybe that might be it
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But I think back in the day when I ca I
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would go to, you know,
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hang out in Miami,
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I would just look as like,
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let's fly to Miami to this is when you could just get
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on the plane at the last minute you go take a flight
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to Miami. I loved Miami.
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I just, I loved hanging out and then on the beach
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and then the parties and the music and everything,
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the vibe, the air,
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the energy is different.
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Everything. Absolutely. 100%.
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How were the after parties back then?
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Back then? Well,
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just like going to New York.
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The same thing you would,
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we'd open the door coming out of the club and
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it was daytime. So it was literally,
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no, literally, I would,
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you know, there were,
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there were parties that we would knock on the door with a
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secret knock to get in.
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And then next thing you know,
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it's like, oh,
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it's time to go eat breakfast and we'd eat breakfast and then
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go to bed. That was,
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that was the scene who,
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who, who was in the scene when you're going out there
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you're knocking on the door,
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secret entrance. They let you in.
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What's up? Who was the first couple people you see when
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you walk in, I can't tell you,
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I wanna know so bad.
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I know it. So cool.
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Well, I know I'm seeing Sheila E,
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I'm like when she leaves that,
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that's all you need to know.
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Tequila shots or crying.
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Maybe this, you know,
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partying. Yeah. No,
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a lot of dancing.
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I love dancing. So even,
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you know, going to Miami and New York a lot,
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I would go just to hang out and,
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and the cool thing about it even back in the day,
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I was asked the DJ K play my song,
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you know, and we would bring vinyl,
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you know, and just like,
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here, can you play this?
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You know, and then to hear it in the club,
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like, Bump and it's like,
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yeah. Or, or,
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and I would just press vinyl just to play it in the
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club and then go back to the studio and make changes if
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it didn't sound right.
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That's, that's the best way to do it.
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Right. You see,
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like, in real time.
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Yeah. Who gets to do that?
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You know, it's,
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I mean, and that's what we were able to do back
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in the day. So you're hearing like salsa music in the
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club? What, what do you want people to feel when
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they're like listening to salsa now?
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What's like that now?
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Well, it's really important for the younger people,
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the younger generation to really,
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like, take hold of this music because it's been here forever
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and, you know,
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for a while, I think it went away,
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you know, and I think it's coming back again and I
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think if the young people could get a hold of this and
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really just like it,
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it's inspiring. It's a lot of fun.
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You dance a lot,
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you know. There's still a lot of amazing new artists
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coming up and singing salsa,
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which is great. They're mixing it with hip hop and you
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know, it. Oh man,
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it's just amazing. So,
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you know, I just want the young people to,
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to take a hold of this and write,
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like just don't let this music die.
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This is important music for the community,
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for the people. It's culture,
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it's family. And then,
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you know, look up the artists like Celia Cruz.
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If you don't know,
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you just smile if you don't know,
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you've been under a rock but,
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you know, but all of these artists,
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I mean, they've been around forever and I was inspired by
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salsa music growing up.
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But, you know,
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it's, it's it's a music that I hope never dies
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because it's so inspiring.
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Put me on some game who's like an artist that I need
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to look up to right now.
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Like any new artist that you're like,
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this is gonna be the new generation.
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Is anybody you're feeling there's you know what,
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there's probably 30 right now that I'm looking at,
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there's a lot and and,
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and the interesting thing is like I was telling someone the other
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day, like I go on social media almost every day.
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I try not to but I have to and just keeping
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up with things, but I,
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the cool thing about it is going on and finding new artists
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and a lot of people do send me,
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hey, have you seen this art?
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Because I know I'm always looking for artists and and some
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of them might have been around,
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but I've never connected with them.
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And that's the cool thing about social media is like,
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I've been able to DM people and say even the young people
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the young girls coming up and playing from all over the
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world, from Japan,
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from Europe from Cuba.
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like literally, I would text or DM them and say
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hey, I just wanna let you know I'm a fan
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even though this is the first time that I've seen them
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I'm a fan and I wanna let you know,
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keep doing what you're doing.
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You're inspiring me And this is amazing.
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It's like, thank you so much for what you're doing.
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Inspiration. I mean,
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if I got ad m from you saying that I'm like,
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I know I'm on the right track.
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Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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No. Absolutely. And there's so many amazing young people
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playing right now. That's the,
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like, that's the cool thing is seeing that,
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that man, there's a lot of young people like picking
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up instruments and actually playing,
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you know, mixing it with a little bit of technology with
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you know, it,
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it, that makes a difference.
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We're looking for the next new sound and,
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you know, and mixing things together.
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I mean, that,
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that's what I did a little bit on this record is mixing
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what I grew up listening to and who I am as an
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artist from the Bay area with a little bit of a little
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bit of R and B in Oakland Funk,
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you know, like on Bemba Colora.
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I mean, I don't think anyone had ever played drums on
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that song. So playing drums and playing a drum solo on
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a Celia Cruz song.
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I don't think no one especially a woman.
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So it's like I,
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I wanna do it first of all because it felt right.
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As soon as I,
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I knew I wanted to do that song and I heard it
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was like, I gotta play drums on this song.
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So you gotta go hard.
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Right? This is your chance right now.
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Yeah. Always, it's always,
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it's always an opportunity.
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Always an opportunity. I gotta ask this.
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You gotta have groupies still,
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right? There's still some Sheila e groupies.
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I don't know. I'm too old for,
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I'm too old. I'm Auntie,
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Sheila. Auntie. Sheila doesn't have groupies.
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Do you do? Where's the crew at?
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She's got groupies, right?
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Look at that. They say,
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yeah, this group is in the house.
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All ages, right?
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All ages. So 28 year old comes up,
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spits some game to you like,
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oh my God, like you out there gave me the life
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What are you doing to a 20 year old?
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A group? And you're like,
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oh, hey, like,
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well, how are you,
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how are you coming to me though?
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Is it a groupie?
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Like he's hitting on me or is a groupie?
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Like I need some information musically.
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What's the right way and the wrong way to hit on you
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or not hit on you?
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Be a goofy. I'm trying,
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I'm trying, I'm making you nervous.
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You are, you got a goy right here.
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Hey, what's up?
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Ok. I'll tell you what,
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you go ahead and hit on me and then I'll let you
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know if it's right or wrong.
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So I'm coming up.
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Oh my God. I don't know what to say right now
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You look so good.
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Head to toe. It doesn't work all,
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all, all, all.
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No, I suck at music.
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Teach me some moves.
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How about that? Teach me how to dance.
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Salsa. OK. That's better.
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Teach me how to dance salsa.
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Ok. That's better.
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So do I just go up like right at it?
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Just, no, you just say,
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hey, would you like to dance with me?
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Just sit. That's it.
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Yeah. Just, yeah.
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All right. Well,
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gotta try that one later.
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So you never get burned out,
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right? Do you ever get burned out by the industry?
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The music salsa. Do you just get,
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I wanna be a dog walker tomorrow or something like that.
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The industry sucks right now.
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It really does. It's horrible.
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you know,
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we can't make any money,
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you know, streaming because it's streaming.
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So, we don't make any money there and we can't
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get paid for our work.
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So we put out all this money constantly,
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putting out money and we don't even get paid for it
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So I don't know what's gonna happen.
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Like I keep asking the younger generation to like,
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can you guys come up with AAA music,
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a new music industry?
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Plan that, that we can all continue to survive because it's
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not gotten better. I mean,
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things are moving so slow and it's not even fair.
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I mean, even with streaming,
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how does a company start?
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And then say, we're going to stream all your music,
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they make a deal with the record companies and they don't come
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to us as artists.
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We're signed to them still,
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but they don't come to us and say,
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hey, let's make a deal.
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We're going to give you this amount of money because we're gonna
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stream your songs and help you because we're supporting,
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they took our music,
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they never even had a conversation with us.
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That's, that's unheard of.
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So you're stealing our music and barely a dollar.
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No, it's not even a dollar.
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It's a half of a half of a cent,
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a penny. So,
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you know, like a million,
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a million streams is like 3000 $500 a million streams.
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We, and, and if there's multiple riders,
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if there's 56 riders,
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we have to split like,
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you know, $3000 or $350 for 100,000 streams,
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there's $350 that we have to split between six of us.
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You can't make a living.
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It doesn't make sense at all.
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The streams don't include the,
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the pay. Not even,
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how do, how do you take back control?
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Are you doing more,
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more shows live? We have to perform live?
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We have to, we have to perform live and we have
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to bring, you know,
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hard copies and ask them to support us,
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like bring your product in order for you to make the money
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because everyone that is played on there deserves the respect as well
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You know, we have to put all the money up
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front so that they can get paid because they know that the
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streaming when they're not gonna get it.
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Because what, what happens in salsa music dies because it,
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what happens to the world?
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It's not even the salsa music,
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it's all music, it's all music and,
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and if it dies,
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if, if music gets taken away,
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we're not gonna be able to live.
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It's like taking water away and,
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and, and us being plants and being watered and,
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and the fruits of our labor will not be able to grow
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because there's no water to feed it.
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Sunshine's gone. The happiness is gone.
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Everything is gone. We will not survive without music.
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We can't do you think like social media has anything to
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do with like this,
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this problem? It's too fast.
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Music, not enough like love behind it.
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No, I ju I mean,
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it's not necessarily social media again.
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It's the companies that started the streaming.
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We feel like the last 10 years,
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like people feel like they need to get stuff for free.
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And why though, I mean,
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everyone else gets paid,
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there's unions and that's the hard part about it.
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We, we have different unions for musicians but it's based on
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local, wherever you live.
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So you've got, you know,
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every city has a different local and we can't even come together
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to say, can we just stop the streaming?
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You know? It's insane.
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It's horrible. I'm seeing Emily Estefan with Caro G on
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tour like they're doing it out here.
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What, what do you,
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what do you feel when you see them on stage?
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Like, yo, that's a new generation like playing percussion now
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Oh, no,
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it's amazing. I've known Emily since she was a baby
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So,,
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you know, my little protege,
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I call her, she's amazing.
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Incredible. Not just a thing about percussion is drunk but she
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plays everything, guitar,
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piano. Like, you know,
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she went to Berkeley,
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she reads music, music,
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she, she writes,
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she's got a beautiful voice.
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Like she has it all like the full package and,
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and when she was coming to LA,
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I was like, you're here and you didn't tell me you
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were here, Auntie,
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I'm so sorry, you know,
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I was like, but she had the gig with Carol G
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Well, OK.
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OK. Carol G come before Auntie.
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She really, this time this time you're teaching us some tricks
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right? Some little hacks and cool things that you can
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learn, right? Oh,
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she's, she watched me since she was little,
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you know, and I mean,
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now I'm watching her and that's what I'm saying.
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Being inspired by the younger generation.
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I'm like, oh,
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that's really cool. And I,
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I text her and I said,
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you know, you did a great job with Carol G.
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It was amazing. You know,
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I just love it.
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She goes, oh,
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that means so much because it does,
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like, when you,
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you talk to someone that you admire and they say,
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you know, well done,
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I really mean, it,
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it's like, I'm not just gonna say it,
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you know, just to see that.
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No, no, no.
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I really mean it and if there's any situation that needs to
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be fixed or whatever it is like next time maybe just,
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you know, if that that needs to be.
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But that's the part.
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I mean, people were able to tell me that and still
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you know, being able to tell me,
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I love hearing, you know,
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a constructive criticism in a way that allows me to be better
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and listen to it.
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I mean, sometimes it's hard to take it.
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It is very harsh.
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But, you know,
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if we're having a conversation,
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like I tell people don't be afraid to say something to me
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that I need to change if you didn't say it and I
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did it and you're like,
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why didn't you tell me?
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You know, it's not good.
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Yeah, you get the Hollywood star.
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How does it feel to have that?
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Oh, yeah, that was amazing.
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It was especially like I never said like I wanna be in
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Hollywood. Like in that way,
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I, I wanted to leave the Bay Area,
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Oakland and then, and then start my career in Los Angeles
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because there was more work,
15:38
things were happening. So you kind of go like,
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yeah, I just wanna pursue my career.
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when I got the start and,
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and realizing that literally,
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you know, maybe half a mile down the street or so
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that was the first place that I moved to L A
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when I so like down the street,
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you could see the apartment like that's where I first moved.
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And here's the star right here in front of Musicians Institute for
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Music for, for all these students like a little for be
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there forever. And it just,
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I never thought that I would get a star.
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Never. You ever go by and just like polish it up
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a little like no fans are doing that for me.
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They've been posting going look,
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I'm at your story.
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I'll clean that up.
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I'm gonna clean it up real literally.
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They've been doing that.
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It's, it's amazing how did pops feel when that happened?
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Oh, my mom and dad,
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they cried, they cried like I did we all cried
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like babies. Like we couldn't believe,
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you know, like,
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wow, I'm getting the start.
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It was a shock to me.
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I had no idea.
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I had no idea.
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How does it go about like,
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do they just like,
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call you or like out of out of the blue?
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Or they reach out.
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Yeah. Well, my cousin,
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IA, she, you know,
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works for my company and,
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she just said we have to take a call right
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now. And I'm like,
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what? So I was like,
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ok, so I come inside and,
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you know, I take the call and they surprised me and
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the lady said I just wanna let you know,
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you know that you're receiving the star in the Hollywood Walk of
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Fame. I'm like,
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wait, what, what are you saying?
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What? And I,
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I couldn't believe it.
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That was amazing. Yeah.
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Are you excited to play salsa Live?
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How's that? How's that gonna feel for you?
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It's gonna be amazing.
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I mean, I haven't played salsa music for a long
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time. I'll sit in with other bands and especially my dad
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and I back in the day in the seventies,
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going to New York and sitting in with Tito,
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you know, or sitting in with Ray Barretto or Mogul South
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We were able to do that,
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sitting with these amazing artists playing,
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I played a show with Celia Tito and Kacha together,
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all of us like,
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you know, it's just amazing.
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So now it's been a minute since I've played,
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I've done some songs in the last,
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you know, five or so years.
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But the interesting thing about this is we're all kind of like
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listening to the music now because doing this project,
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I played different instruments and then sang and then you know,
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when you put it all together,
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you're like, wait,
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this song I should play Timba.
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No, this one I should play conga because I'm not sure
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Well, I have to sing in Spanish.
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I don't speak Spanish at all.
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And so it's like remembering what,
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what's the enunciation and pronouncing this,
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right, making sure.
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But playing the right cowbell beat all of that is,
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very challenging.
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And so right now,
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I, it's half of my original band and then most of
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the musicians in Miami.
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So I'm mixing the two together.
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So it's a big band,
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five horns, two keyboard players,
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guitar player, bass,
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a drummer that plays Bongo and Bell.
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And then the conga player that plays timbales and five singers
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because they're Spanish and English.
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So they're, we're mixing it together and then all of the
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artists and I'm bringing my entire kit with timbales.
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Congas and drums and I'm playing all of everything.
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I'm just gonna be running around on stage doing everything.
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What do you do with the crowd?
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The crowds sitting down,
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they're, they're not dancing.
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What do you do to get them up on their feet?
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Normally South side will get people on their feet.
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Right. That's true.
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But if they're just chilling vibing and you're like,
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I'm not worried about it.
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No, no, not at all.
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Because at the end of the day it's how you end up
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It's not how you start and at the end they're always
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standing up. I don't even worry.
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I don't even worry,
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but it's not my concern at all.
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Even if the rhythm is off,
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they're, they're partying,
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they're having a good time.
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No, they're just,
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they're gonna enjoy it because the,
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the part about being able to create and then play that music
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live. You know,
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like all of us finally coming together,
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we're only gonna have two days of rehearsal and we're all gonna
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come together for the first time ever.
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I've never played with some of these people before these musicians and
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artists. So to play live together is gonna be amazing.
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We're gonna have so much fun.
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You're gonna be affected by how we feel.
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You're going to see it,
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you're gonna feel it.
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I mean, if you don't feel it,
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you're in the wrong place,
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the energy nice and hard.
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No, it's just,
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it's just what it's gonna be.
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It's gonna be exciting.
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How can you not,
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you know what's like the best city that you think to throw
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these, these parties too?
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Because I, I'm a,
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I'm gonna feel it's a party,
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not just it is a party,
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it's a party. The best city you think that's gonna vibe
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everywhere I put my foot is a,
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that's it. New York or Miami.
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What do you want?
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It's both of them,
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it's both of them.
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Who are you inviting backstage?
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How about that in Miami?
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Who's gonna be like your person?
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You're like, yo,
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you gotta come through,
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it's gonna be a party.
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Oh, I've already,
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I've already, that list is long.
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You better be there.
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You better be there.
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Tequila. Bring a bottle of tequila.
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That's it. You know,
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you gotta have a good time,
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right? Yeah, we're gonna have a good time.
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It's gonna be incredible.
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Is there any, like,
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highlights of like best gigs that you can like,
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remember best gigs.,
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everything was perfect. The weather,
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the people I was,
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most of them are perfect in a way that,
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you know, we're able to say you come off stage going
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God, that was amazing.
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We touched so many people.
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There are some clunkers,
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you know where either,
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you know, half of your drums are messed up or,
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you know, the P A system,
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you can't hear anything,
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you can't hear anything but the people can hear it but you
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the, our stage,
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we can't hear anything.
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You just keep going and you're just like,
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that was horrible. But the people loved it and at the
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end of the day you make them happy,
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you can't stop and go what's going on,
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you know, you have to keep going.
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There's no way you can do that.
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No, you just have to keep going through and hopefully someone
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runs on the stage and connect something or something.
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They try. Yeah,
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you're like, you gotta play harder,
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gotta get wilder. Yeah,
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it's so much fun.
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I mean, was there any like,
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shows that you were like what,
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where are we, how,
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how do we get to see Memphis or?
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I mean,
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there, there are times,
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well, well, a lot of the times,
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we end up at venues.
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All my, I've been doing this professionally since I was 15
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so I'm used to coming through the back door and there have
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been some times where I go to see an artist.
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I'm like, I've never been here before.
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They, like, we just played there last month.
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What do you wait a minute?
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And they're like, no,
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because you go through,
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you go through the back door.
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I don't know what the front of a venue looks like.
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So or we're going through the kitchen or through the,
22:05
you know where the trash is and we're just used to doing
22:08
that. So,,
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and, and because you keep going,
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especially when you're on tour,
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you have no idea.
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There's a couple of times more than a couple.
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I have said, hey Memphis,
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how you doing? Wait,
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where are we, Chicago?
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Oh my God, I'm so sorry that happened.
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I just want to make sure you guys are paying,
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wake up, wake up.
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I know you're gonna play forever,
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right? Can, can you,
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this is this crazy?
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But can you are those bad boys insured?
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Are those hands insured?
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Yes, they are,
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they are insured. What are they insured for?
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Can we ask chameleons?
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Millions? I was scared to touch your hands.
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Be like, no.
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What do you do.
22:50
Someone's coming in with their gross little hands on you.
22:52
You're like, elbow,
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hit him with a little elbow.
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I, I mean,
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that's the hard thing when once COVID happens,
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like when I shook everyone's hand kinda,
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I do this and Ringo Star showed me that because everyone's hands
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are. So he tries to grab the forearm.
23:08
Like, how do you train for a tour?
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Obviously, you're learning in the handshakes,
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don't touch my hands,
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trying to practice and,
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you know, and I don't usually practice at all,
23:17
but this one, I've had to sit down and practice because
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it's a lot. It's very demanding and,
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you know, going from one song to another playing different instruments
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it's,
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it's a lot. So,
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yeah, eating well,
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you know, and getting ready for it.
23:32
I've had a little knee,
23:34
mishap with my knee.
23:35
I tore my meniscus.
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So it's been a little rough getting back to that point,
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you know, but I'll get there,
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but I'm excited. Nothing's gonna stop me.
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So I gotta go.
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Is there anything like,
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cool, anything else that was cool that Ringo taught you?
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I wanna know more about that.
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What are the tricks?
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well, for him,
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he, I mean,
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the cool thing about it is like,
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he's just so like you're sitting there talking to him and when
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he starts talking, you're going,
23:59
God, he's a beetle that's really him,
24:02
you know.,
24:03
and the stories that he tells and the same thing is like
24:06
there was a time that he,
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they did a show and none of his drums showed
24:12
up. He only had Cymbals.
24:14
He had no kick drum,
24:15
no snare, no toms.
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Nothing. He just had Cymbals.
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He said, and everyone's screaming and yelling in the stadium.
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He goes, they didn't even know I had no drums.
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It didn't even matter.
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He just played Cymbals the whole time.
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Like, that's great.
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And people were left like,
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oh, it was the greatest show ever.
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You just keep going.
24:31
You know, you just keep going.
24:32
How does that mess with the band though?
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There's no drums now.
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It doesn't just keep going.
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You just keep, do you play the rest of it?
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Yeah. You just pretend.
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So let's refresh everybody when the album's coming out.
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April 5th, my lab's coming out.
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It's gonna be on all platforms.
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Give us what, what,
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what else can we do?
24:52
What else can we do to prep for this?
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Support, support it.
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Yeah. Even though it's streaming,
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try to purchase it,
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support it, support all the artists and the musicians that put
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all the love and the soul and the heart and the passion
25:05
into it and you know,
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wherever we might may be performing.
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So you can go to Sheila e.com and I will sign it
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When you go to our website,
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I sign it and we ship them out a million dollar hand
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She's gonna sign this.
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So an icon, living legend.
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E thank you so much.
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Thank you. Thank you.