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The True Story of 90s Cuban Punks ‘Los Frikis’

April 5, 2024
Filmmaker Francesca Pagani tells us what she learned in Cuba while interviewing surviving members of Los Frikis, who purposefully injected themselves with HIV.
Show transcript
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A movie titled Los Friis is premiering at the Miami Film Festival
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this week. Have you heard of the real life story?
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No, I actually haven't re until recently.
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It's crazy. Yeah.
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The, so the movie portrays the Cuban 19 nineties punk rock
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movement. Los Fris,
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they injected themselves with the HIV virus to be able to live
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in government funded treatment homes.
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Instead of being out on the streets,
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Los Friis were often targeted and arrested by Cuban authorities.
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They saw injecting themselves with the virus as an escape from society
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and a form of protest,
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they would make music in the treatment homes where they had access
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to food and other resources.
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Our next guest Francesca Pagani interviewed surviving members of Los Fris for
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her 2017 vice documentary.
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Meet the Cuban punks who infected themselves with HIV in protest.
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Here she is to explain.
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Hello, Francesca. Welcome,
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welcome. Thank you.
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You directed and produced a documentary about Los Fris.
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Can you explain who they were and what was their movement about
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Yes. So in 2017,
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I went to Cuba to the Pinard Rio region to meet some
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of the surviving members of Los Friis.
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who were an underground movement of punk rockers that formed
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in Cuba, in a time of hardship that was called
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the Special Period, which started around 1991.
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And they were rebels and against the authoritarian government.
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They wore punk clothes and listened to punk music and heavy
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metal. And they were often brutalized by the police
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and arrested. So,
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they were not,
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they were, they were not free to express themselves.
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And for that reason,
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many of them ended up self injecting themselves with HIV
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virus in order to be quarantined in what they were at the
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time called Sanitarium, which were basically health center facilities
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where they would be isolated and allowed to play music
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because they were, they were quarantine.
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And so they were sort of left alone.
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And and yeah,
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so, so that was,
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that was sort of the,
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the movement. So how was your experience interviewing the Survivor members
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of Los Fris in Cuba?
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What did you learn about them?
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Yeah. So the,
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the project was quite an adventure because I wasn't able to get
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in touch with them prior my visit.
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So I had heard a podcast on radio mbue about the story
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and decided to go down call a fixer.
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So a local person that knew where the Sanitarium was and also
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where the last surviving woman who used to be the partner
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at the time of the first person that self injected themselves
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with HIV virus. This guy named Paul A Bala,
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who was the lead,
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one of the leaders of,
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of the, of one of the bands and sort of consider
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one of the leaders of the freaky movement.
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I was traveling with a AAA colleague who had played punk
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music as well back in the States.
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And so I think that element of connection sort of allowed us
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to,, let ourselves in a little bit and,
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and they were, they were pretty,
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pretty lonely. I mean,
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it was very sad.
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They, they still lived in that old facility which is half
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abandoned. And,,
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yeah, it's pretty dire conditions.
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So they were resisting.
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But at the same time,
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their story was sort of like what all they had left.
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So they actually ended up opening up and,
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and talking to us,
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can you describe what their treatment centers were like?
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Were they really a haven for them?
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I mean, I think they were he in the sense that
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they were not brutalized and arrested and beaten up as they
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were outside on the sidewalk.
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Because at the time you could even like,
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listen to, for example,
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English speaking music or music that was coming from the US
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they,
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you know, they would,
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they would choose like clothing that was,
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they were very radical and,
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and different and, and so all of that were causing them
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to be,,
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arrested often and, and so in this,
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sort of quarantine facilities,
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they literally had the freedom of being left alone and perform their
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music. They also had pretty good,
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food,,
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provisions. So sometimes they would be able to eat meat or
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things that were otherwise very difficult to find around Cuba.
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And,, yeah,
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so in that sense,
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they were, they were heavens,
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you know, and lastly are you planning on watching the upcoming
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movie? And what are your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, so I had spoken once,
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I believe with one of the executive of this film that called
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me many months ago.
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It's a powerful story.
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Most people is, is not around anymore.
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I think it's a,
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it's a, it's,
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I'm very curious to see their interpretation and I believe it's a
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it's, it's a powerful idea to do it in a
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fictionalized narrative form. Well,
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thank you so much for being here today with us Francesca.
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It was, I think,
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very interesting to learn about this story.
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I hadn't heard about it before.
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And thank you. Thank you.
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And I just before you go.
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where can people find you?
06:01
Yes. So I have a website which is my name
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Francesca pagani.com. I do documentary,
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film and video journalism and other things as a cinematographer.
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And I have also my Instagram,
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which is also my name Franchi,
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the nickname version Franchi Pagani.
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So yeah, you can find me there.
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Thank you so much,
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Francesca. Lovely, take care.
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Bye. Thank you.
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Thanks. Nice to meet you too.