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Say something that you love about yourself that's not visible.
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I'm a real chismosa in a good way,
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la diencia entre la ropa de unaca contralada.
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Welcome to Adeo. I'm Anna Barasa,
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and today we're joined by Miriam Lara Mejia,
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the voice behind Comoer Una Gordalibre,
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a powerful exploration of body liberation,
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identity, and self-worth.
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Hello, summarize your a book in 15 seconds.
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Start the timer. You have a body that you've been told
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all your life is wrong,
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especially if you're fat,
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but here comes Comoseaalli to smash that up.
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We got science. We got history,
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incredible guests, immersive audio,
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some secrets revealed some of mine,
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and it's in Spanish.
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Oh, you can plop it in the family chat.
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Your audiobook felt so different because you're not just sharing your own
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story you have interviews with friends,
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family, and experts.
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What made you want to take on that approach?
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Body liberation has like this domino effect like you cannot just liberate
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yourself right around you yes it gets everybody involved and for me
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this is really special because you get to hear like my mom
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who passed away 6 years ago to like my son,
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This idea that like we can do this together is just I
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mean amazing. Why did you wanna get your message of como
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sa goda libre and espanol?
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My tia talks about how much I eat or tells me the
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next Dieta or how no one's gonna love me because of my
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size. I bet you almost everybody in the Latino community can
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lock that experience, right?
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So how are you gonna tell your tia about the racial origins
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of fatphobia if you don't have,
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you don't even know how to say fatphobia in Spanish.
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Data to back it up in Spanish.
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So the next family gathering,
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Like how are you gonna tell her that it has harmed her
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if you don't know tho those words?
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So the only way we win this is like if we are
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all working to fight,
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yes, to fight by phobia,
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right? Like not just us,
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it's a generacion, right,
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like really reaching across the the other generation it those are the
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ones that need the help,
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we all need the help,
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right? And when we all work together.
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Make it happen, you speak with a philosopher Magda Pinero who
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explores the origins of gorddophobia.
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What does Gordophobia mean in your words?
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Gorddophobia comes from the English fatphobia,
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right? And it's the socially accepted bias and disdain for fat
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people. We treat fat people badly.
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The problem is that we think that it's OK and then we
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think it's justified, but it's not.
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It's fat phobia and it's harmful.
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We have great power to disrupt this violence.
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Do you think we're moving closer to.
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A world where all bodies are genuinely accepted and not just tolerated
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I think we are seeing more bodies,
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but on the other side we have all these forces that are
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pushing us in the opposite direction and you know what the opposite
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of diversity is uniformity we have this very anti-diversity government it's important
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that we have the tools and the language and the community to
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resist and to to reclaim our space that we all deserve to
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exist. In all this diversity that we have that's right you
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heard that? Anyways,
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one of the things that I really love that you shared was
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your experience with samba.
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Can you walk us through that experience?
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Samba was one of my first loves of dancing,
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and I was good at it.
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And then one day one of my friends asked me why do
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you have to change to fit into this bikini and not make
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period. So I made my own bikini and yes and it
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fit me amazingly. And that became this moment that I called
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the last time, the last time that I believed that I
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had to change to be part of my life and to enjoy
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well, let's try something different.
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We're gonna take turns looking into the mirror and saying out loud
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whatever comes to mind when we share some promptsila les pejoes.
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Super poder sereto super poder sereto is que chilaquiles tambuenos sequela gente
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and a more demi oh I know you say something that you
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love about yourself that's not visible.
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I'm a real chismosa in a good way.
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That was gonna be my answer.
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Chismosa power. If your reflection had a theme song,
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Definitemente deviarmas photos the bad bunny because girl you gotta be in
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the photos we all need more photos.
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The episode that really struck me the most was during your mother's
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memorial where you seem to see yourself mirrored in the faces around
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you how has learning the science behind weight and body diversity influenced
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the way you see yourself and in relation to your family?
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I don't remember a time that my mom.
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Talked in a positive way about her body,
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right? She hated her legs and her arms,
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her her panza, her papada,
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right, and I looked like her,
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right? So I learned to speak to myself that way and
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to see my body as wrong and to do all the diets
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and do all the things to chase this other body.
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It's my greatest sadness that.
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While it makes me sad that my mom.
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Didn't get to make this journey with me.
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Didn't come along witherda libre,
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I feel really happy that my son is,
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is going to be a different life and teaching him that he
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is perfect. Just as he is,
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not only does it end with you,
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but it starts with you this new area.
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That's beautiful. Thanks for sharing that.
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We've reached Dilo Atodo petro where we'll chat a little retrospectively about
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this audio libro. OK ready,
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ma'am? What makes Como said unagorda libre stand out as an
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audio libro that's worth listening to.
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Como Cerona Guadale is fun and it's interesting and it's challenging and
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it has all these different elements and I'm really,
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Make sure to listen to Como Cerona Gordalibreen espanol available now only
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on Audible. Thank you so much for joining us on Audioio
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Graciasviarme. I so excited to share this with you.
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Resume the audiobook la tienda solo 00 a literali figuramente ala gorddas
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nose charon de las tienda.
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