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If you brought a vibrator out for her and you said you want,
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you would be a king.
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She'd be like you care about my pleasure.
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All right, I'll do it.
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But the vibrator gonna have my skin color.
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Mi Gente, I'm Sasha Mercy.
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He's a poet in the building, Eric Rivera.
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Thank you for being here.
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So welcome to three Ds in a pod.
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This episode, we're going to be talking about sex, love relationships
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But first we're going to start off with something else.
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You need to grow up to my favorite segment.
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White people proud of.
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So we've got this girl right here on Tik.
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She's got some things she's gotta say.
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So let's hear what she's gotta say, please.
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How come the new haunted mansion didn't need any racial updating
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because even in the original, it was about a black family with
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a couple of extra white people.
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I just think it's super coincidental and funny that you don't
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feel the need to racially update anything that already has
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black people as the star.
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But you can't be racist to white people.
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So this is one of those people that got messed up when there
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was a Black Little Mermaid.
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She's one of those, one of those.
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So she's got a problem with Haunted Mansion because it's still
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black family, black family because Eddie Murphy did the original
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Now this one, it's got the dude from Atlanta and uh if I'm blanking
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on his name, Tiffany Haddish.
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So she's like, oh, there was no updating here.
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What the hell Disney?
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Because apparently white people are being left out a movie
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Well, I just, I how are you left?
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How are you being left out when you're 75% of America and African
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Americans are only 13% and everybody else is less than that
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Like what is so like, what are you left out of?
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Like you're left out of nothing?
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Well, let, let us have a moment, let us have a thing.
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Let us let, let us feel represented and your teeth was so yellow
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My man, her teeth was yellow.
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I thought it was a white tee.
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I don't know if you should brush your teeth or put mayonnaise
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in front of her mouth has diversity.
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There's no white people in there girl brush your teeth before
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you start talking, talking spicy with the look at the yellow
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They as yellow as a version.
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I don't know why everybody teeth are diversified.
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I don't know why, why people get so upset when something is
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racially, like, just changed.
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You know, with the Black Little Mermaid was one of the things
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like, there's, if you look at the old movies, first of all,
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if you watch some of the old movies, they are racist as hell
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Like you're like, oh wow, that's happening.
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But there's a lot of kids out there and the diverse kids, like
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they wanna be princesses or princes and when they put them
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on like II, I hate to say like I dude, I, my kid got dressed up
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one year and they're like, oh check it out.
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Yo, is, is, is Mexican that and I was like, no, he's just, he's
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He's not a central Captain America.
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Like what are you doing?
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So we need to diversify these things because kids are watching
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this and they need role models.
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Like how many Latino princesses does Disney have?
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It's crazy like listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hit you guys with
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my Hollywood conspiracy theory right now.
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We are being left out of movies.
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We are being left out of animation superheroes but mo mainly
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That's why every year comes out.
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Those, those reports like, oh we 2% of the people on screen
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and right now white people are doing this tricky thing where
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they're doing period pieces to leave us out and we don't get
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mad at it because we don't realize it's happening.
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What do you mean Hulu's got a show called The Great, it's called
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Catherine the Great.
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There's a time piece where there were no Latinos, right?
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You got uh Bridgerton like it's Old English.
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The crown was a big one on Netflix.
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Bridgerton was a bad way.
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Did update that we want the Crown Superior.
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Oppenheimer is a big movie right now.
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There was no, come on, there was no Latino bullshit.
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There was no Latinos.
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Latino janitor in the, and there was no Latinos in fixing the
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goddamn bomb is like a, it's like who disconnected the wires
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It was because there was no on the wire.
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And so I take it out.
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Now there was no Latino la Hey Jose.
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La Bomba was doing flashy lights and I disconnected it.
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Can I tama if it blows up I might watch.
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It wasn't that serious.
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Who cleared up the white board?
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But that's the thing, right?
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It's the, it's the funny thing about like what you're saying
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right now where all these things are coming out and all these
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main characters are white and you're just upset that one character
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like the Little Mermaid is now black when you still have the
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majority of Hollywood.
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You whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, dude, I, I said in the
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beginning of this podcast, we're gonna be talking about sex
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And I'm very curious about what was it like?
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The first time you got to round base, like the full base, the
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first base, rounding first base.
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What is, what is, ok, let's establish the base before we go
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My first base is base, is busting a mizz.
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I know that we make sure we on the same page on my fear is your
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base is are way off third base in a but all right.
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So what's your first base?
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Hold up what I said, but you see what I said?
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This is a fact we have it.
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I'm filming right now.
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No one mentioned but I said in her, but you look how excited
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you got though, I'm sure it was her but your eye got glossy anyways
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Anyway, second base is what?
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Let's talk about bases, right?
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So first base is kissing, kissing.
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Yeah, what I'm saying?
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Second base is touching, touching, touching, touching what
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touching areas, touching, touching, you know, like we getting
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down now, I thought it was Dominicans got a whole all the way
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So what's for you like going down on the neck ros, you know what
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Neck rolls bases on the, on the, on the third base and then all
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the way all the way we on the same page every time I think about
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the bases, I think, I think about baseball, it's like first
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base, second base, third base and that's all that happens
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Eric takes it somewhere else.
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He probably does something at the benches.
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I don't know what's going on over there on the bench.
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You know, I'm just saying, I'm just saying.
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So when was the first time you ever got to first base?
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Oh man, you're getting caught in the action.
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First base was young for me.
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I was doing this shit young.
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I have, I should have started with him.
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A young age at the fucking playground at the apartments with
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We started making out.
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I probably was in kindergarten.
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You were making that I was a player player.
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I know now what are you talking about?
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I know kind like I was like it was a kiss but I was kissing.
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I already had sweaty hands and everything but isn't first
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My kid is, he's got girls that he plays with and he, I kissed
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her on the mouth and he kisses them.
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It's a front but he's not making out exactly what was the first
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grinding session and what song?
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Which party it was grind on me.
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That was, that came out when you were like 20.
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That was when I was in middle school.
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I was in middle school.
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A couple of times they did bring back a little bit.
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But yeah, that was in like middle school.
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No, it was freshman year of high school and it was a oh no, it
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was back that ass up and it was at this girl's house in middle
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school and I was like seventh grade and I remember my mom from
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Her mom, her mom was uh they were working back in the day.
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The moms and the parents used to work and the kids used to be
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left alone in the neighborhood.
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So we all like got together at this one girl's house because
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she had a pool and uh and I remember we went to the living room
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and her sister was adopted and she was like 18 and she was a wild
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She was like they, they they could control this bitch.
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So she was out here silver teething it up with everybody.
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So she was was she was a walker.
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She had booty shirts before booty shows were booty shorts
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You know what I mean?
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Like all the deals in the neighborhood.
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So there was that girl that was just walking around the neighborhood
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showing cheeks and she was adopted and she was like she came
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to the house and she told us she told them to start freak dancing
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That's what she called it freak dancing.
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So I guess she's freak dance and then on, on us or the guys and
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we were all like, oh that's what it was, that, that ass up.
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I put that shit on repeat.
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What was your first experience of grinding?
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It was uh it was a, it was a middle school dance and this is uh
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Usher was nice and slow.
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Came on and iii I grew up very religious.
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So when it happened and I started feeling the blood flow.
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I was like, I got, I got, I go to the bathroom like I just, I panicked
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and I just, Iii I walked off and, and I was just like, I don't
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I don't know what to do.
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Like I'm gonna go to hell, this is sin.
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That girl was probably like, I thought we were connecting
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and he just loved it.
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He was like having a whole anxiety come through poke all that
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Yo, Jesus Jesus Sante now for me.
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Um OK, it was like, I was high school, I was in high school and
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it was like a reggae, it was like a reggae song I can't remember
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So I said, hey, it's t give out what they know.
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No, no, no, no, no, I never heard that song.
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So it was a reggae song or whatever.
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And I thought the guy was cute and then that was the first, you
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know, and then I was like, he turned out to be my first boyfriend
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You gotta do it the right way when you broke and you just out
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here, you know what I mean?
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You a good dick and you broke.
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I don't know what you mean and you just like when you're done
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you're just like, oh my God, that was funny.
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Yeah, you just fucking get up and just be like, yeah, I was just
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trying to explain to you how to do it.
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You just look at him and you're like, hey uh oh wait, no, no,
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And girls are always like, what, what, what is it?
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No, I just, no, nothing, never mind.
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Just fucking whatever.
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I'm just not gonna make it be quiet.
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I'm just not gonna make it.
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I got something going on but I can't make it cause you got young
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impressionable viewers and you're teaching them this.
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I just, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to, you know, make it
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happen because you know what I mean?
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They bite you now, whatever, man.
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You gotta act tough like you don't care.
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I'll figure it out if I can wait.
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I mean nah you know what?
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That's how you did it to get girls to give you money.
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How much do you need?
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Oh God, look, I've seen that.
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I need a fucking, you know what I fucking cheese from, I see
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my brother do the same shit for shoes too and she bought them
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I used to, I used to have girls buy me sneakers an outfit I used
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to like because when I was, you know what I mean?
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I was out here, you know, dating girls that had jobs and shit
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to be driving their cars.
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We got uh Doctor Kat Meer and hopefully she can fix Jesus if
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he's got a smaller penis.
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That's what he wanted to make sure he could still pleasure
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It's not about the size is what he wants to know.
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Never actually is about the size.
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Is there anything on your guys' mind that you're ready to talk
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This is bump on my dick.
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I'm saying I don't trust someone about sex.
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If they ain't hot, you definitely ain't fucking.
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I think people fuck all the time.
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How many people be having sex?
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I don't know, dude, I trust a pretty, a very beautiful pretty
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girl because then I'll be like, well, you definitely know
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No, that's not even true because you have to be a sexual person
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A lot of girls that are pretty from what I hear from dudes.
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They're pillow princesses.
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What's pillow princess pillow.
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She lays in the pillow like this.
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She's all dolled up.
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She got her hair, her hair done, her nails, done a toll done
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and they just lay there like that and yeah, printers.
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Now I remember I, I used to take like there was this big teddy
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It was like a, like a husky, like a big teddy bear husky.
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And I was just humping it.
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And my grandmother was like, what are you doing?
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And I was like, I don't know, but not for me, but I have a friend
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that my like ass play in order to orgasm.
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Why is that not for me?
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Is it true that the male G spot is in the asshole?
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That's what I'm trying to tell you.
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And we are back and we've got a very special guest.
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I'm excited to have her here on the couch.
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Give it up to Dr Kat Meyer.
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So what is, what is the title you prefer?
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You, what is the title you prefer when people address you or
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I'm also specialize in Ket Iun Assisted therapy.
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So I like to go by like sex and psychedelic therapist.
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How does a meeting with you look?
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So when you're working with me and I'm in the session with you
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you're not having sex, things might get, you might feel pleasure
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in your body, you might feel really sensual with the other
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person as in like you're touching, you know, or petting the
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other person or you're gazing into their eyes, that kind of
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But then mostly I give the practices outside of the session
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for you to do into the privacy of your home.
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Now, I, I have a question.
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Uh Jesus message, this question, if he's got a smaller penis
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That's what going on.
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I'm sure he can still pleasure a woman.
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It's not about the size.
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It's what he wants to know.
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I would like him to do psychedelic because as you can see, he's
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battling some demons in there that we don't know about, you
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know, from Jesus at gmail.com.
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That is not my fucking, you know, that question is asked so
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often and I think it comes from this, yeah, this fear of not
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We want to be a good lover and it never actually is about this
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It's about how you learn to seduce her body or be in your own
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And, and then for he, I, I like to think of side.
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I don't like the way you point at me when you said that she was
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like, whoa, whoa wait, that was not my question.
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I'll whip it out right now.
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I was like confident.
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You so right now I fill up a fucking toilet paper roll.
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Bring that shit right here.
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I, I think of it as the lazy type of sex because it's what you're
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just gonna fill it up and just rub it around a little bit.
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But like that, that gets boring after a while.
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I mean, in some bring in some, some creativity.
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It's funny that you're saying that, that sex has to be more
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creative because a lot of people don't think about like, that
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sex needs to be something that needs to be creative.
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I think that's where I lack.
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What about for people that some feel like I want to be in a relationship
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But I also want to hook up with other people.
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Like, do you get that a lot where there's that one couple that's
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like I want to be with other people and then that person would
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be like, no, I want to be with one person.
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How do you handle that?
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I work with a lot of individuals who want something that's
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And I think our cultural idea of relationship is one person
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for the rest of your life and that's it.
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But if we realize that there is an infinite potential of all
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these different types of relationships, it's going to take
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And especially because we're so programmed to think that
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it has to be this way.
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And so when you work with me, I can hold the space and help to
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translate what's happening.
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If a girl says she wants to like, try like different part, I'm
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out like I can't, I don't, what's wrong?
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What, what's going on with people that can't handle that can
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be, can have share partners and not have and what do they call
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that being in the open polygamy?
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Yes, I ain't gonna repeat that polygamy, polygamy monopoly
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So here's the thing is like, what's going on with them?
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What's happening with this person?
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They're like, OK, yeah, I'm down to do that.
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What's the common thing?
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People look at this and say that there is no jealousy or there
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You just are so confident to be able to do that.
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And that's not the case.
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That's what I thought.
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I thought they come to this polygamous world where there's
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I'm like, I don't know about you, but I will have you both.
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I don't know about you.
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My theory is that they get off on feeling jealous, they get
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off on feeling hurt and that's why they like to do it.
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There's something that about getting hurt that they're like
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they like, that's comfortable for them or like they like
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That's what I think.
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Yeah, it's possible for some people but I, to generalize that
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to the whole population.
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I don, I'm generalizing on this one piece I had and I was like
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yo, the way you grew up, I'm like, maybe that's so.
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And if our partner is feeling jealous, how are we showing up
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How are we finding connecting with the compassionate piece
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And the, tell me more about that.
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What are you afraid of?
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What's, what's I don't think that jealousy is a bad thing.
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If we pause and get to know what that person needs to be able
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to feel mat and safe and, and secure, what if they want your
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And you're just like, I don't know if we're ready for you to
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get my passcode on my phone.
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What are you hiding privacy?
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You know, I think privacy is important too, but then follow
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the curiosity with them.
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Tell me more about that.
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Are there but there's some girls that just, just love to fight
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they just love to, they just love that because I grew up in
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that world and I've seen that in my office and oftentimes when
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they pick fights, it's because they need to be seen and they
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need the connection.
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So the, the other partner, it may be a perfect match for hitting
19:54
their w and they may have this person who just pulls away and
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closes down and that's just gonna trigger it, trigger it,
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So then I come in and then, and I say, OK, let's look at this dance
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How are you both contributing to this?
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And let's see, if we can unwind this and see what the actual
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like, fears and vulnerabilities are.
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You can have like this, such a deep connection with someone
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and like, like vibe with them and be like, oh my God, you're
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my person or it just seems like you're my person and then sexually
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you guys get involved and you're like, this is not gonna, my
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question is, did anybody bring that up?
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Do you talk about it?
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Do you say, hey, that sex was not about that?
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Keep it inside, lock it up and just keep moving.
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But then you could be missing an opportunity with somebody
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You just don't know what's getting in the way and that's where
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You know, I help you understand what's getting in the way so
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that you can have the, the sex life of your dreams.
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I don't necessarily ascribe to the incompatibility of, of
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It's more about the incompatibility of open mindedness and
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if both people are willing to learn about the other person
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and what the other person needs, then there's so much more
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that we can do there.
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Well, it's almost like we're, we have this narrow mind of or
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narrow vision of what sex is supposed to be like and everything
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outside of it is a threat to us.
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Like, well, I don't know what to do outside of this thing.
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And now this person, yeah, this person has, needs something
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And so yeah, if we don't talk about it, if we don't, you know
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come see me to figure it out, then that can blow up, we can pull
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away, we can, you know, hide behind our protective parts and
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just don't look at me, I'm not a good lover.
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We're all scared of being a bad lover.
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Is there a common problem you see with most relationships
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or marriages when they come see you like, is there like a, oh
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this is a classic textbook.
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This is what's happening in this relationship and this dynamic
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So where one person either wants sex a lot and the other person
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And so then we have to go through this whole process of seeing
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like what might be the, the culprits here, what's contributing
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So it might be something inside themselves.
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It might be something in the environment.
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It might be that the two people speak very different sexual
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So to say, and uh so one person's taking on the language of the
22:08
sex of the other person, maybe it's sensual, but they're not
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really that sensual.
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They're more kinky or they're more um sexual or they're more
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energetic, you know, all these different styles of the way
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that we can have sex, but we just keep doing the same thing and
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then we don't want it anymore or there could be trauma or there
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could be pain that's going on or there may not be enough foreplay
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that's going on and, and it's like foreplay is like, have you
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ever gone down a water slide without water?
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Trust me, I've, I've been to Mexico water parks and the water
22:42
goes down like your skin just.
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And, um, yeah, so I know exactly what you're talking about
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You got to put them in the mood, right?
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I wanna know body count, right?
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Do you know what body count is?
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I don't know how many people you had sex with.
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Oh you're from the streets.
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So here's the thing uh is that like a big deal breaker in some
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Like if like your body count is way too high or also like is it
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Like should we be asking these questions?
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I like to encourage not asking that question because me personally
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I don't think that it's a big deal but for somebody else they
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might have the mean, they might ascribe meaning to them.
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Yeah, they're lying to you.
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I know but I'm trying to figure out how much they're lying.
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So what does body count mean for you?
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Like if somebody had a high who me?
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Like yeah, because the thing here's the thing, it's like what
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what number is too high for you?
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What number is so high for you when you get to the double digits
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I'm like goddamn it.
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You just out here just you know what I mean, see what fits, you
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know, but that was in my twenties, it was like, bro, you know
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I didn't want to know, uh you know, in the thirties it was just
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kind of like, I didn't even really ask.
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I was just like, oh, it all good.
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But then I'm still curious, you know, and you want to know he's
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just like, oh no, I mean, you've been, you think you can handle
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And even if they said fucking two, I would have been like, oh
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I thought I was the one for you.
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I thought I was the only one.
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It's like, yeah, so you know, so what does that mean?
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When you hear a woman here?
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The thing here, I'm glad I'm glad we're talking about this
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Now, the thing is, I think it's the Mexican Machista in me.
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I think it's the, you know, the power trip.
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You know what I mean?
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You just want to be the, the, the, the one I grew up with like
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the thing was she, can you, you are the only partner for her
24:45
If she already messed around and lost her virginity, she's
24:49
And that was what I grew up in.
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People would talk like that.
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Adults, cousins, uncles.
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So I always looked at it like that and if I dated a girl with a
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kid, oh my God, you were just like, oh, why are you?
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So that was a big thing.
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And then I realized, oh they need a girl.
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You know what I mean?
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Those guys need to like come back to earth.
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You know, this isn't fucking the 18 hundreds in Mexico.
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But that still bothers you because like you were saying there's
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Like what if you found that perfect girl?
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But it's not gonna fucking like what if you find that perfect
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girl, you vibe and everything and then you, you drop the questions
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Like I said, I grew up, Eric, I grew up and then I just felt like
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I'm just kind of like then I went to the phase of like, yeah,
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but I could do a better bitch, you know, even though let's be
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real, I can't, let's be real dude.
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And I think you bring up a really good point.
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This is what we grew up with.
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So if we think of our brains, like these computers that are
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picking up these experiences that we've had, that makes up
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our initial programming.
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And so then we're looking through the filter of these old programming
25:51
that need to be updated and creates this power dynamic between
25:56
If I can show you the way baby, I'll show you how sex can be, you
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know, like you don't even know.
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And now it's in your head.
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Oh Somebody else showed you that?
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Oh What if they're better than me now it's in your head and creates
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So it's uncomfortable to be in that role.
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I guess I've been saying, listen, listen, that's what I was
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What's wrong with me?
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Somebody who has their own experience of their own body, of
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of ownership of their own body, of learning what pleasure
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is like in our body and then they show up to you and they're showing
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they're expressing and experiencing sex in that way.
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Imagine how different that is for you.
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I wanna be in control.
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You said it, I like to be like, I'm showing you things, not you
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But what if that person shows you something that blows your
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Oh This Cougar did one time and I swear to God ever since then
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that's probably why because he probably showed you something
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and then he was like, I want more and then she was like, I'm out
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and maybe that cause a little bit of trauma it cause because
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I want, I said, listen, I can't, you know, be here with your
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grandkids and grandsons.
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I said Cougar, I say I'm gonna say this younger, I said a Cougar
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I got my heart broken at a young age and it messed me up ever since
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There's been this wall, I put bricks the heart and, and I just
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put a wall and I said, I'm never gonna get hurt like this again
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Opening up, you need to do.
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I don't know what's wrong with.
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We're always the ones opening up here.
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You know what I realized with men, especially nowadays, like
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you bring out a vibrator when you guys are having sex, they're
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like, I'm not enough.
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Like why are you bringing that up?
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Like they really feel a certain, if I brought a vibrator out
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in order for her to have an orgasm, it's like, I think it depends
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on the style of vibrator.
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Like if it's a brief kick, kick, kick kick, I'm like, yo, I'm
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But if she just goes in her drawer, like I OK, let's go.
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If you brought a vibrator out for her and you said you wanna
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you would be a king.
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She'd be like you care about my pleasure.
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All right, I'll do it.
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But the vibrator gotta have my skin color because I hold on
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I feel like you cheating on me.
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Somehow some people do feel threatened by a vibrator, which
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is so interesting because I'm like, this ain't even a person
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It is this little machine going and you know why do Yeah, its
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me dancing to what's the best toy out right now?
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Oh, that's a big question because there's so many toys, I mean
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ranging from vibrators to butt plugs to kinky toys and, and
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you know, I don't, yeah, that's really, I gotta go shopping
28:52
We're going to take a quick commercial break.
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Don't pull your pants back up yet.
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We got more Kat Meyer for a woman of orgasm from the back.
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Do I didn't know anal sex?
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Somebody's like, oh don't do that.
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Eric's favorite fucking.
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But maybe your partner is just afraid.
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I mean, if one of us like a I know never mind.
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Anyways, go ahead and we are back with doctor Pat Meyer, sex
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therapist, extraordinaire.
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How do you keep that sex life uh alive and spicy?
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Cause I, you know, women after they have Children may feel
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a little insecure about themselves, they may feel a certain
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You also now got the kid in the, you know, his, his schedule
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So what like what, what, what recommendations do you give
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to like married men to like, hey, let's, let's keep things
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Let's keep things spicy.
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Don't, don't just go in there and like you were saying, Jack
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Hammer just worship her body, worship her body, her body make
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her feel so luscious and just like like a queen to support her
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to feel really good in her own body.
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You know, it's like I'm sorry about this.
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If you're taking care of kids all day, your mind is on kids and
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it's hard to then shift into sexy mode.
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So there needs to be a trans and how are you supporting in this
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I dated a girl who had a mole and I think that's because I've
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always always like, damn, how did you make her feel special
30:13
I didn't wash her if I would, if I would have just the mole, kiss
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the mole tickle, the mole, kissed the mole first.
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You know what I mean?
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Then she would have been, wait, is this how we found out you
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and Sasha was fashion?
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No, we didn't fucking grow up.
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No, she had a mole on her, on her neck and I was always like kissing
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on the other side and she's like, how come you didn't want to
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sit here like, oh no, it's because the eyes and my, you know
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But I also think like bringing in playfulness, bringing in
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fun, bringing in like, how can we make something um I call them
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How can we turn something that is traditionally not sexual
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and make it something that's perverted and fun and silly and
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and playful, like bring in laughter into sex.
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And I think that I like that.
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How do I make my man or my significant others feel special or
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like, how do I spice it up for them?
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Like, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, how does it feel?
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How can I make it feel different for them?
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We do these things to support our partner to feel a certain
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But ultimately, it's about us getting into our body and being
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in pleasure and, and making the fun.
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We wait for the other person.
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What if it's too wild though?
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And the other person is not about that wildlife.
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So then there could be a negotiation, negotiate something
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So maybe you don't get exactly what you want but you can find
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something around it.
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I don't want an impossible burger.
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I want the goddamn meat.
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I don't want to do no.
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Like well, because you're saying like you find a middle ground
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like no, but if it's not that then I don't want that.
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I don't want this middle ground.
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Like what, what would be the, what would be the thing that you
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want in a fucking, a hotel room with the window open?
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People can watch but it's like maybe they're not in it but they're
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It's like I don't want to do that shit.
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But maybe you can find out what are the fears around it?
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What are the concerns around it?
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Is there some way that we can meet some of those instead?
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You know, you know, uh anal sex.
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Somebody's like, oh, don't do that.
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Fucking, maybe your partner is just afraid.
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I mean, if one was like a, I know, never mind.
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I apologize all the time.
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I mean, if I'm lying, I'm lying.
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This is what's out there, this is what comes into my office
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So that like anal sex and like the fear around that you like
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how do they ease into that anal sex?
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There's gotta be a lot of prep.
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I think a lot of times you're just like, stick it in.
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Let's do it, let's stick it in.
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And that can be really painful.
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That can cause tears that can cause the person to not enjoy
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But there's a whole lot of prep that needs to happen at least
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a week or two beforehand to help support it.
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Other then when you do that, it can be insane.
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It can be such a powerful orgasmic experience.
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But you got to take the time with the body.
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You can't go faster than it for women and men, for women and
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So women and men can have all genders.
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Did you just figure out you had a booty hole?
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I know we both have booty holes but it's also like for a woman
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of orgasm from, I didn't know this, you know, from the back
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I didn't know but they like that.
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No, I'm learning, I'm learning a lot about the things that
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And it's like, it's very interesting because it's like there
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is this linear thing about how we think about sex and I think
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we all have like this is what I'm going to do.
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This is how I'm going to put it down or like this is what I'm going
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I'm going to have these tricks.
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But it's like, sometimes it gets old and if you don't want to
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jump from partner to partner because that also doesn't feel
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Sometimes it's like, what is the common ground if I'm bored
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But I don't want to do this and I don't want to do that.
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I don't want to jump around from being from this person to this
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But then I'm bored here.
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Like, what am I gonna do?
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And there's a lot of practitioners.
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So myself, I lead couples retreats with um B DS M which is more
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of a kinky type of type of sex.
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And then to, you know what that is?
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Is that the BS M stands for a bondage discipline?
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Um uh sadomasochism.
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Tell him, tell him, tell him sexual activity.
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That's more on the fringes.
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So it could be bondage, it could be handcuffs, it could be spanking
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it, pull it out, pull it out, pull it out, pull it out.
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I don't even like girls trying to scratch me.
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And it's like uh what girls like, oh my God, I was like, oh, hey
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hey, like what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Like I don't like that but people like this, that kin right
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So these kinks, what it's like if somebody's into these kinks
34:50
should I be a red flag and be like, oh, we gotta go see a therapist
34:52
because she's trying to, we gotta fix some trauma here is this
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does that come from trauma?
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That's like the biggest misconception.
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You don't like something just like it.
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Some people like spicy food.
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Some people don't like bland food.
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You're not going to.
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Oh, they like bland food.
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They like spicy food because they got trauma.
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That's what people like.
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I like spicy food because of trauma.
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Used to give me and then they like this one has chili.
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You eat it, come on, eat it.
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That's what you get.
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And I'm forced to eat it.
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And now I'm like uh no, I can't eat it without fucking eating
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I don't like spicy food but I have to.
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So that's your kink.
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I'm just saying that's what I, that's just like you're taught
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these things, these things.
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I really do believe that you're taught these things.
35:35
I feel like if you're into a weird kin because it has to be deeper
35:39
She's a doctor and she could really explain that.
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And we're getting it more in the mainstream to where people
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just want to explore and do something fun.
35:46
There's something really erotic and turn on about doing something
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that's naughty or doing something in secret, you know.
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Oh I'm not supposed to be in this power role, dominating somebody
35:57
with consent, you know.
35:59
There's negotiation that happens beforehand.
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Um Even pain like, you know, I'm a, you know, somebody who's
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a feminist and they want to be dominated by their male partner
36:09
And it's like, oh in the space in which we're playing and we
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create a scene, we can play this out.
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But that's not the reality of how I live my life outside.
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So it almost like creates this container for us to play out
36:23
My thing is how many of that percentage are white people because
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that's not white people.
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I feel more free spirited like we didn't have that.
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I didn't have that and I didn't have that either.
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I'm from Saint Louis and it wasn't until I moved to L A 14 years
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Who did someone mess you up?
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Was it a guy messed her up?
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She just blew like there wasn't a guy that went, whoa, you just
36:46
And he just opened to the new world of just fucking, it's a different
36:50
world because you weren't like that.
36:51
And then you were like that.
36:51
What was the thing that made you?
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I started studying sex therapy.
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And so I was immersed in the B DS M world and the, and then I started
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doing um neo Tantra which is more of like the spiritual, the
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And it's, you know, it, it created these reference points
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for me of like, oh this is possible to do that when you see somebody
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else be able to do that.
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Now it's in your, in your mind of like, it's possible.
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Is there a move or exercise?
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You could teach us where we could just incorporate into the
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They would take, our partner would be like, oh, yeah, I want
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I wanna, like, look it up or something growing up.
37:34
I remember there were certain things that I would talk to my
37:36
Like I'm like, I would never do that.
37:38
Was there a part of you that I'm like, oh my God, this is wrong
37:40
or like this is interesting.
37:42
It's been a long journey because I also come from trauma from
37:47
So I to do a lot of reprogramming around, um even just feeling
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safe in my body again.
37:54
And that's, yeah, but then I also had this deep determination
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to heal and I didn't want sex to be something that was scary
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I wanted to be able to have relationships.
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I couldn't hold relationships.
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So these I dove into everything that I could and of course I
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would get in there and sometimes be like, oh, this is too much
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too much, you know, and I'd have to come out and, and then,
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you know, do some uh inner work and, and look at why was that
38:18
too much and then learn about how to express my needs or what
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my boundaries and my limits were so that I could create safety
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for myself and, and then it turned some of these experiences
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into, oh, there's nothing wrong with the people in the B Ds
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They're just, they're people that want to be fully expressed
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It's like this essence of playfulness.
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And I had never worn lingerie before.
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It's a waste of time.
38:51
So walking around with no, no, no, no, no.
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What were you trying to say?
38:56
So walking around in that in this environment of people in
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in this dungeon like setting and other people were fully
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owning their bodies and their sexual expression helped me
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to reprogram the slut of like, oh like I can be, I can own my body
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I can own my expression.
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That is not an invitation for somebody else.
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I can learn how to hold my boundaries, pick who I want, but still
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be and dress and act how I want to.
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And that doesn't make anything wrong about me.
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You know what's interesting about that?
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It's finding the safe space to be there because as a woman,
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we both know as women, like sometimes people think people
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pray on that and be like, oh well she's, she's down for, you
39:38
know what I'm saying?
39:38
Like and being, being in that environment sometimes makes
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you feel like I shouldn't even show up this way even though
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this is how I want to show up.
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But I can't because it's going to make people think that I'm
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inviting them to my vagina and I'm not so like even that like
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how do you find the safe spaces?
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How do you find a place to feel comfortable for women to walk
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down the street in an outfit?
40:02
Like I love wearing whatever the fuck I want to wear.
40:04
However I will get eyes that look that, that feel an energy
40:09
that feels really unsafe.
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There's the safe stairs, right?
40:11
But then there's the stairs like I'm about to pull up, I'm about
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to wait on this person because I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do my
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own little tests and theories and stuff.
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I'm going to wear short shorts, I'm gonna show package and
40:22
see if I get any safe.
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So I think it's important to think about like creating safety
40:28
as in like who do I surround myself with?
40:30
You know, do I have friends who celebrate and support me too
40:34
And then also I feel relaxed knowing that I can set a boundary
40:38
I can say, you know, leave me alone, but they will too.
40:41
And I think that creates this added sense of safety for us to
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be more of our express self.
40:47
Is there a move or exercise?
40:49
You could teach us where we could just incorporate into the
40:52
bedroom that would take our like our partner and be like, oh
40:55
yeah, I want something I wanna like look it up like I do a set
41:04
So some of the best things you can do, you already have access
41:07
So, breath, sound and movement are your favorite tools here
41:13
So if you change your breath, if you notice that, often times
41:16
your breath will start to get really quick and, and shallow
41:19
if you instead slow your breath down.
41:23
So breathing in and out of your mouth.
41:29
Nobody wants to make eye contact with me.
41:31
I was like I'm doing a bra, I'm winning.
41:37
I should do her microwave.
41:40
So slowing down your breath really helps you to drop into your
41:44
And it also helps to increase your arousal because your body
41:47
has a difficult time with the arousal and with the orgasm.
41:51
So you wanna relax your body sound sound vibration helps to
41:56
again open the body.
41:57
But it also we can be really turned on by the sound of our partner
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So whether it's hearing their breath in our ear or you hearing
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them moan and I know that guys are a little more, you know, vulnerable
42:10
about sounds and they don't necessarily want to moan.
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But if, if I hear a guy moan, it's such a fucking turn on like
42:17
I'm gonna give that shit to me, you know, and because it also
42:20
communicates that there, you're right.
42:22
I used to be a AAA all you got was hot air for me.
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Fuck, I was fighting all that shit.
42:32
Oh fuck I'm a different guy now.
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I, I know my body, I know what I like now people were like, yo
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I was like, she is a shit.
42:42
That was all me, baby.
42:44
I was like, oh my babe, all that.
42:47
You were saying a sentence.
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You were saying all sentence I telling you I am a moaner baby
42:57
Are we not in a safe place?
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Then we're in the same fucking place.
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Eric, shut your, this will vibrate for me.
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Eric's one of these Eric's Eric's one of these.
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That's what, that's what he is.
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He's a hot breath viper.
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I'm being open breath, sound and movement.
43:25
So many of us just do this back and forth are very stiff type
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But if you learn to move your entire body, then it helps to,
43:33
to spiral the energy and, and increase arousal and increase
43:37
your chances for orgasm.
43:38
You see, I got the Shakira moves, you know what I mean?
43:46
Possessed we meant to be together starting with just tilting
43:54
and tucking your pelvis.
43:55
So like rocking your pelvis back and forth and already you
43:57
can feel a turn on it and then moving into circles into the hips
44:02
and again, so many of us are stiff here because we just don't
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So it's really helping to break and break loose and open up
44:09
into the pelvis and then even into the spine.
44:11
So can you spiral up the spine or allow your spine to s shape
44:17
So it's almost like making sex a dance in that sense.
44:23
You can do like Hula hoop or something to get your hips moving
44:26
and do you recommend music like during, you know, and that
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bad bunny album on you?
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Like, I can't do bad bunny Mexican Selena.
44:41
I mean, come on, girl, you know what I'm saying?
44:53
So got to go through that song if you know what I mean?
44:56
If you really want to with a good beat so that the two of you can
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sync up on it because if it doesn't have a good beat, then you
45:06
What playlist would you recommend for some people?
45:09
I mean, I've got some good playlists.
45:13
Follow me on sex, love yoga.
45:17
Can I guess I think your playlist has like rain sounds like
45:20
you know the camping.
45:23
I don't know, I think it's a tattoo.
45:25
I don't know what it is and it's like, I feel like the guys like
45:29
when you walk in the room, do you see crystals and lights and
45:32
energy and like, oh you know those rugs that are on the wall
45:34
you're like, fuck, what is this?
45:35
We got a meditation profile.
45:37
I have so many different types of playlists because I work
45:39
with so many different types of people and I love to help them
45:42
create those experiences.
45:43
The three of us should come up with our own sex playlist.
45:46
Put it up and have people vote.
45:49
Let's sexual playlist.
45:52
So, before you go, is there any lasting uh advice you could
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give us when it comes to sex or relationships or, or dating
46:00
I, I feel like you've gotten a sense of our personalities.
46:02
I would say that the potential of your sex life is infinite
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as long as you stay curious, man.
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That should be on a pillow.
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Uh Well, thank you, Doctor Kat Meyer for being here.
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Can you tell, tell our listeners, tell our viewers where they
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can find you your, your website, social media, all of that
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Uh So they can find me at sex, love yoga.com or follow me on Instagram
46:28
Well, thanks so much.
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I think we learned a lot.
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Uh If you enjoyed the episode, make sure you like, subscribe
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Tell a friend, be a friend, spread the word.
46:36
I need a cigarette after this.
46:39
Like I learned so much today.
46:40
I'm not gonna lie rock hard right now.
46:43
All right, Tasha Eric, thanks again, guys.
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Uh anything jump out at you.
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The whole mel G spot like being down there.
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I don't know, dude, I just don't buy it.
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I mean, she brought up some pretty interesting points but
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I mean, how is she really gonna know?
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Like here, how short you think his fingers are?
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Like, why is he digging so long technique, man?
47:41
Well, with us call him, you gotta walk it off.
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